Scott'll beposting any news we glean from today's event, nicely and neatly in a separate post for those of you who detest ourchatcasts, and Engadget has Ryan Block onthe scene, but for those of you who love reading us ramble on, drooling over the day's a ouncements and being as arky as ark can be, here's the place where you'll find all our ba lings. Enjoy.Beginchatcast:
Pregame chatter...
12:30 PM
Damien Barrett: The A leStore is still up...
David Chartier: I don't think it usually goes down this far outside game time though
Damien Barrett: don't know
C.K. Sample, III: yeah
C.K. Sample, III: usually it goes down 15 mninutesbefore
David Chartier: do they hold events like this on the A le Campus often?
C.K. Sample, III: not thatI'm aware of
Damien Barrett: not usually on A le Campus...no
C.K. Sample, III: it's a bit out of theordinary
C.K. Sample, III: which makes me think it is going to be movie related a ouncements
Damien Barrett:I agree with C.K.
David Chartier: as in: it i 't a big enough deal to do it elsewhere?
12:35 PM
DamienBarrett: but why would Engadget be invited if A le's not releasing or pimping a gadget?
C.K. Sample, III: there'sthe rub...
Damien Barrett: but it could also be they've finally finished the product that was su osed to be the"one more thing" product at MWSF but got bumped
David Chartier: Kevin Rose said something in the TWiTpodcast that made me optimistic that it's at least something important: he's been able to peg it in the past whenevents are off campus because he has some kind of i ider
David Chartier: but since it's on the campus, it's a lotharder to leak this stuff
Damien Barrett: I'm not the only one who felt that this year's MWSF Keynote felt le solid than those in the past, as if things were changed at the last minute
David Chartier: I felt like thesoftware portion got bumped and squished in order to squeeze in the MacBooks
David Chartier: He might as well havesaid "eh, and iWork... yea that's neat too."
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Damien Barrett: and then there's the whole thing withMicrosoft moving their "Origami" a ouncement from Thursday to tonight...why would MS do this unle they aretrying to steal some of A le's thunder...
Damien Barrett: not to mention, they also formally a ounced the Vistaversion details...
David Chartier: yea, but they still don't have a clue when it's getting released
DamienBarrett: and to really steal A le's thunder, they'd have to release a product that competed with A le's...
DavidChartier: that "gue Vista's release date" contest they're ru ing is just too... u ettling
ScottMcNulty: some think that A le and MS are working together on Origami
David Chartier: maybe Microsoft is justtrying to get into the game of creating buzz about anything. For way too long they've told the public about productsyears in advance, so there i 't much excitement when they land
David Chartier: the public just seems to go"oh hey it's here - finally. Nice work guys."
C.K. Sample, III: what's all this fascination with foldingpaper, anyways
C.K. Sample, III: hello it's the digital age
Scott McNulty: e-ink!
David Chartier: yea,who choses their code names over there?
Damien Barrett: well, Microsoft's marketing dept. ha 't exactly shownitself to be all that savvy...
Damien Barrett: hence that brilliant parody of the iPod box if redesigned by MS
Damien Barrett: which is fu y because it's completely ot on
David Chartier: it'd be interesting if M$ andA le were working together on something though
Damien Barrett: well, nobody's really ever made a lash witheBook readers. There are some out there, but they're not selling well.
Damien Barrett: if someone could build ane-book reader that was as easy to use as an iPod, and with a really nice di lay and battery life...it'd probablysell.
Scott McNulty: Sony's latest ebook reader has a great di lay
Scott McNulty: and they are going to havea 'book store' as well ala iTunes/iPod
David Chartier: maybe Scott was on to something; that truly flexible,electronic paper has been floating around for a while now.
David Chartier: Maybe one or both of these companiesare going to whip out an actual product. The term "tablet" would almost be too bulky with something likethat
12:45 PM
C.K. Sample, III: nah
C.K. Sample, III: no way
Damien Barrett: well, the otherproblem with e-books is that the content delivery mechanism ha 't ever matured
Damien Barrett: but A le's iTunesstore could easily handle e-books as well
David Chartier: good point. Pro aly part of the reason iTunes rocks somuch
C.K. Sample, III: too much DRM in the ebook ace
Damien Barrett: there's DRM everywhere,unfortunately
C.K. Sample, III: competing DRMs
Scott McNulty: DRM is everywhere
C.K. Sample, III: inebook ace
C.K. Sample, III: is what I meant
Scott McNulty: well, I'll be buying Sony's new reader
C.K.Sample, III: they don't have one DRM to rule them all, like with iTunes
Barb DyBwad went offline before acceptingyour invitation.
Scott McNulty: that is, if I don't end all my money on whatever Steve is going to bea ouncing
David Chartier: yea, DRM needs to get smoothed out or standardized somehow if it's going to readsignificantly
Damien Barrett: that's something the movie industry ha 't realized yet
David Chartier: theycan't hide with %26quot ecurity in o curity" for much longer
Scott McNulty: A le store is down
DamienBarrett: ah ha! That's a good indicator for a new product
David Chartier: woohoo, not just movies!
DamienBarrett: not just iTunes Movies
Fabie e: yay hardware
C.K. Sample, III: so where are we getting our dirtfrom?
C.K. Sample, III: engadget of course
C.K. Sample, III: but who else has someone there?
DamienBarrett: there are several other places, as well tho.
David Chartier: macrumors?
Damien Barrett:http://www.macrumorslive.com
12:50 PM
Damien Barrett: lots of l are using the comments in last "YetAnother" post to post info...
C.K. Sample, III:http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/28/live-from-the-steve-jo -keynote-fun-new-products/
Scott McNulty: I hope thenew stuff i 't crap
12:55 PM
Scott McNulty: that's all I'm saying
David Chartier: yea, it's a bargainbin Mac mini to compete with eMachines
David Chartier: $299! $50 rebate!
Scott McNulty: if you sign up for 2years of AOL
Scott McNulty: Who I love
Scott McNulty: All hail AOL
David Chartier: oh gawd.. don'tremind me, I used to have to sell that stuff @ Circuit City
Damien Barrett: MacRumors says there's only 150-200 l in the Town Hall Event
Scott McNulty: it is a small venue
C.K. Sample, III: 4 minutes!!!
ScottMcNulty: I wonder if a webcast will be available later
Damien Barrett: my gue is no
David Chartier: not ifit's going to be more fodder for an updated bloopers reel...
C.K. Sample, III: i think if they unveil newproducts
C.K. Sample, III: like hardware
C.K. Sample, III: then yes
C.K. Sample, III: if not
C.K.Sample, III: then no
David Chartier: I think the webcast is one of those important but %26quot ack stage"elements of their viral marketing
Damien Barrett: iLounge also has a live feed...
David Chartier: it's go abe iA liances, I just know it
Jan has joined this chat.
Jan: thanks
C.K. Sample, III: what's the linkDamien?
Damien Barrett: http://www.ilounge.com/
David Chartier: "Your refrigerator's door will open,just like butta'"
Damien Barrett: it's just the same stuff as Engadget
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1:00 IT IS GAME TIME!
1:00 PM
Damien Barrett: ok, any last minute gue es?
Jan: hiy'all
Scott McNulty: A le switching to Windows!
David Chartier: maybe the rest of their lineup is alreadyIntel ready?
Damien Barrett: My money is on a Movie Store via iTunes and an iPod Bookm Box of some type...maybewith wirele eakers.
David Chartier: I don't see what the holdup is anyway, e ecially if they're using nearlyindustry-standard hardware throughout the machines now
C.K. Sample, III: Dave can only IM via Gtalk, so I'm goingto cha el whatever commentary he has to add
David Chartier: MacRumors: %26quot otted...
Jon Rubi tein,Senior Vice President of A le's iPod Division, Greg Joswiak, A le's vice president of hardware marketing, and otherexecs."
David Chartier: neat, MacRumors links Engadget as a live feed
David Chartier: but engadget justdied on me
Damien Barrett: me too
Scott McNulty: same here
David Chartier: er, I mean: I love my AOLoverlords
Jan: tee hee
C.K. Sample, III: iLounge just died too
Damien Barrett: gue that's what ha e when 100,000 people all click refresh at the same time
David Chartier: MacRumors still up
Scott McNulty: Orperha A le has put a hex on all live coverage
Damien Barrett: 100K is a gue ...
1:05 PM
C.K. Sample,III: iLounge is back up
C.K. Sample, III: oh man
C.K. Sample, III: we're down too
Damien Barrett: ergh
Scott McNulty: looks like most of WIN is down...
C.K. Sample, III: oh, but we shall rise from the ashes!!!
David Chartier: lol, everything's down but MacRumor kudos to them
C.K. Sample, III: any news yet?
Jan:everyone is being seated
Jan: johathan ives is in front row
Jan: music by u2, green day, others
Jan: allre macrumors
David Chartier: I wonder what Ive's salary is
Scott McNulty: macrumors is getting that fromiLounge
David Chartier: I can't get into iLounge
Jan: me neither
C.K. Sample, III: iLounge works andthen it doe 't
Jan: engadget is back up
C.K. Sample, III: yay
1:10 PM
Jan: eaker(who?) saysthey've got some fun things and some medium scale things
The AIM service could not send the me age: A me age orpicture is too large to be tra mitted.
C.K. Sample, III: 10:07am PT - Good morning, thank you for joining us thismorning. We've got some fun things and some medium scale things.
C.K. Sample, III: All of us want all of them, wehope our customers do too. Let's start with the Mac, biggest thing these days, tra ition to Intel. We're ahead ofschedule, we're converting entire product line to intel over this calendar year
Jan: they're ahead of schedule intra itioning to intel
C.K. Sample, III: via engadget
David Chartier: *cro es fingers for new Macs*
Jan: converting the entire product line to intel over this calendar year
C.K. Sample, III: we're still down
Jan: new mac mini, based on intel single-poroce or and dual-proce or
C.K. Sample, III: macrumors is gettingits info from Engadget now
C.K. Sample, III: cool
Jan: that's steve on stage talking
David Chartier:still can't get into engadget
David Chartier: or anything but MR
Jan: new mac mini is 2.5 to 3.2 timesfaster
Jan: and has same exact form factor
Scott McNulty: dual core Mac minis...
Scott McNulty: verycool
C.K. Sample, III: i hope they are media centers
Scott McNulty: though they will be faster than my iMac
Damien Barrett: please, please...a Media Center!!!!
C.K. Sample, III: if so I am sooooo gra ing one
Damien Barrett: c'mon, A le, I know you can do it! Build a Media Center into the Mac mini!
Jan: something aboutFront Row software re iLounge
Scott McNulty: mac minis have front row
Scott McNulty: perha they will updateFront Row
David Chartier: well what's mi ing: TV I/O?
Scott McNulty: where does the remote go on the macmini
Scott McNulty: that's what I want to know
Damien Barrett: on your coffee table
C.K. Sample, III:Dave Caolo: ha, steve said, "medium scale things, but our customers want all of them"
Dave Caolo: youmay officially let your hopes sink
Dave Caolo: woo, intel mini. Already I'm wrong!
Jan: the dual coreproce or on the new Mac mini is the same kind of cpu that powers the iMac and MacBook Pro.
Jan: the IR se or ison the right of the disc slot
Jan: Mac mini features gigabit Ethernet, a total of four U 2.0 ports
C.K.Sample, III: this is all from MacRumors via iLounge?
Jan: yes
C.K. Sample, III: Dave Caolo: ah, i like theshared music library addition of frontrow. iTunes server in the basement!
Jan: re macrumors: you can listen toiTunes ru ing on other machines on the same su etwork via Front Row
C.K. Sample, III: cool we're back up
David Chartier: I wonder if this sharing music bit could tra late into something iPod based?
David Chartier:iPod bonjour?
Jan: From Engadget: You can continue to use the Mac mini without hooku , and you can hook it up totelevisio .
The AIM service could not send the me age: A me age or picture is too large to be tra mitted.
Jan: but not cellphones
C.K. Sample, III: New Mac mini
Based on Intel
Intel Core Solo, Intel Core Duoversio
2.5x - 3.2x faster
Same exact form factor
via iLounge
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David Chartier: I wonder what actual A/V I/O cablesand ports it offers
C.K. Sample, III: Front Row software
IR se or on right of disc slot
Six buttonA le remote
C.K. Sample, III: -- New Features --
Shared Music - Bonjour technology, allows devices to findthemselves automatically over a network, acce music library wirele ly.
Shared Photos and Video - Same idea onlyfor photos and videos.
David Chartier: iLounge: Can stream iTunes TV shows.
C.K. Sample, III: i hope it doesHDMI so I can hook one up to my cable box and my 32" LCD
C.K. Sample, III: w00t
C.K. Sample, III: DaveCaolo: so you dont need to cram the mini w/all your media.
David Chartier: oh wow, this new software will bereleased as an update to all Front Row machines
Jan: Steve demos browsing iTunes ru ing on Phil's MacBook Pro
Jan: so if you've got a mac mini attached to a tv in one room, you'll be able to see the media that's on everymachine in the house
Jan: ck - i think we're repeating ourselves
Scott McNulty: that is the wonder of thechatcast
C.K. Sample, III: 600 bones for the mini
Jan: the mac mini comes with Tiger, iLife 06, Remote andFront Row
1:25 PM
Jan: Airport Extreme, Bluetooth
Jan: DVI video out, DIF
Scott McNulty: what is DIF?
Jan: and analog in and out. via engadget
Jan: price on the duo core is $799 via macrumors
Jan: ithas 1.67 gHz, 80 GB drive, and superdrive
Jan: and is available today
David Chartier: nice, I was gettingworried with all that "a ounce now, available in a month" silline
C.K. Sample, III: available todayas in walk into my local a le store....
Jan: jo is now discu ing ipod and itunes numbers
C.K. Sample,III: or order and have it arrive 10 weeks later
C.K. Sample, III: ?
David Chartier: order and ship w/in 1-2busine days
Fabie e: are we updating the chatcast post?
Fabie e: it doe 't seem to be very up to dateright now
C.K. Sample, III: yep
C.K. Sample, III: I am
Fabie e: ok
Fabie e: ok it just updatedfor me, the servers must be slammed
C.K. Sample, III: yep
C.K. Sample, III: wheeeeeee
Jan: the entrylevel mac mini system is 1.5 gHz solo core system. 667 MHz bus, 512 RAM, 60 GB SATA hard drive, combo DVD-ROM/CD-RWdrive
Fabie e: dif is for digital audio
Jan: and goes for $599
Jan: steve a ounces leather ipodcases
Fabie e: same thing as aes/ebu, high ohm-age cables for digital audio
Jan: cases are in black forvideo ipod and nano
C.K. Sample, III: whatayamean cases?
Scott McNulty: very odd
David Chartier: leathercases, y'know the kind you put iPods in?
Damien Barrett: if they have the A le logo on them, they'll sell
1:30 PM
Jan: the cases are $99 each. too steep for me.
Fabie e: do we have an image of those yet?
Fabie e: wow crazy pricey!
C.K. Sample, III: yee
C.K. Sample, III: that's a lot
David Chartier:these sound kinda silly; no screen or control acce
Damien Barrett: heh, no markup on those...jeez
C.K.Sample, III: that's a 6th of a Mac mini!
David Chartier: it's 1/3 of an iPod
Jan: iLounge: 40% of all autossold in US this year will have an iPod co ectivity option
C.K. Sample, III: i 't that old news from the lastevent?
Jan: iLounge: Steve is saying that now it's time to add In the Home
David Chartier: ok, I have cla to catch. have fun boys and girls
C.K. Sample, III: NICE
C.K. Sample, III: by David
Jan: iLounge:a ounces iPod Hi-Fi
Fabie e: bye david
C.K. Sample, III: WHAT
Jan: It's home stereo reinvented
Fabie e: really?
David Chartier has left this chat.
Jan: It looks like a center cha el eaker with iPoddock on top. via iLounge
Fabie e: does that mean there will be an ipod revision update?
Jan: it comes withi erts for every iPod
Fabie e: dude i could be right
Fabie e: oh maybe not then.
Jan: it has twobutto
Jan: one is volume control
Jan: could it be a boombox?
Scott McNulty: it would be cool if itworks with the a le remote
1:35 PM
Jan: steve pulls the black grille off the device
Jan: to revealthree eaker drivers
Damien Barrett: gue A le wa 't selling enough Airport Expre es
Jan: it has anintegrated power su ly, rather than a brick
C.K. Sample, III: very nice
Fabie e: nice nice
Jan: youcan power it off six D size batteries if you want.
Jan: so it'll play several hours outside
Fabie e: boom!box.
C.K. Sample, III: they should have sla ed a rechargeable laptop battery in it
Jan: in the center is a130mm dual voice coil woofer
Scott McNulty: sadly I have no use for a boombox
Jan: it has great ba thatdoe 't distort when cranked u
Jan: and a universal dock co ector
Jan: all ilounge via macrumors
C.K.Sample, III: any word on price yet?
Jan: not yet
C.K. Sample, III: bet it's like a friggin' bose radio
C.K. Sample, III: OVERPRICED
Damien Barrett: $too much
Fabie e: yes i have a price
Fabie e: viaengadget: we're go a price it at $349. It goes on sale... today.
Jan: box has ipod integration
Jan: there'sa software update for ipods that puts a eaker menu item in the main menu
Jan: it's controlled with the a leremote
C.K. Sample, III: i gotta say...
C.K. Sample, III: so what?
Scott McNulty: yeah, it is prettyboring...
C.K. Sample, III: or does this hook up wirele ly with your existing system via airport
Jan: ipodscreen can go black and just show album art
Scott McNulty: no word on that
C.K. Sample, III: b/c if it isjust a boombox, here goes a le fighting with the 3rd party production lines that are already out there offeringsimilar products
Jan: price is $349. available today.
Fabie e: via engadget: we have two 80mm mid rangedrivers in sealed acoustic su e ion. we have a 130mm dual voice coil woofer with a ported ba reflex design, we getgreat base on this thing that doe 't distort when you crank it up
1:40 PM
C.K. Sample, III: dumb name
C.K. Sample, III: iPod hi-Fi
C.K. Sample, III: pff
Jan: blast from the past. the 'rents had a hi-fi
C.K. Sample, III: yeah
Jan: way back when
Fabie e: steve says (via engadget): I'm an audiophile, and I'mgetting rid of my stereo
C.K. Sample, III: yeah, but....
C.K. Sample, III: does it do video too
C.K.Sample, III: ?
Fabie e: no word yet
C.K. Sample, III: like the current iPods?
Jan: it has an aux i utin the back for plugging in the shuffle
C.K. Sample, III: b/c if not this is soooooo dumb
C.K. Sample, III:no way steve is really an audiophile
Jan: steve is pumping the audio quality of the hi-fi
C.K. Sample, III:if he were the iPod earphones wouldn't suck so badly
Jan: says he's getting rid of his own stereo
Jan: infavor of this thang
Scott McNulty: Did he say 'thang'?
Jan: no
C.K. Sample, III: he actually startedsinging
Fabie e: heh no that's jan's interpretation
C.K. Sample, III: SHake your thang
C.K. Sample,III: do what cha gotta do
C.K. Sample, III: Dave Caolo: wow six D cell batteries!
Jan: i wonder how big itis
Jan: i can't see myself lugging around a big ole boombox
C.K. Sample, III: Dave Caolo: D cells aren'tcheap and they'll get sucked dry in no tome
Dave Caolo: tiime, even
1:45 PM
C.K. Sample, III: 0:35am PT- You can have the screen go black and and just di lay the album art. Great for newer iPods. via engadget
C.K.Sample, III: but what about the video?
C.K. Sample, III: I can't see ending $349 on a boom box
C.K. Sample,III: that doe 't work if my iPod breaks
Scott McNulty: neither can I
C.K. Sample, III: e ecially if itdoe
C.K. Sample, III: t do video
Damien Barrett: how big is this boom box?
C.K. Sample, III: and whenI can get a friggin MAC MINI for a little more
Fabie e: it allows other audio in via mini jack if i'm notmistaken
Jan: engadget says the iPod cases are "really, really nice"
Fabie e: yes it has an auxi ut on the back
C.K. Sample, III: still: dumb. overpriced. thum down from me
Jan: and you know engadgetdoe 't give out compliments lightly
Jan: It's over
C.K. Sample, III: that's it!
Jan: steve walked offstage
C.K. Sample, III: LAME
Jan: a lot of ruckus about nothing
Jan: maybe something else was pla edand fell through?
C.K. Sample, III: i mean, the mac mini is COOL
C.K. Sample, III: but...
Fabie e: wowi wanted an ipod update
Fabie e: *sad*
Jan: so to summarize
C.K. Sample, III: no PVR functionality
C.K. Sample, III: pfff
Jan: there was the single core and dual core mac mini,
Fabie e: intel based macminis
Jan: right
Jan: front row with bonjour
1:50 PM
Jan: ipod cases
Jan: and the new iPodHi-Fi
Fabie e: and a hifi boombox type thing with eakers plugged or batteries
Fabie e: yes
C.K.Sample, III: the front row with bonjour is the coolest thing
C.K. Sample, III: but...
Fabie e: well i amsad, i leave you all
Fabie e: bye
Fabie e: tschu !
C.K. Sample, III: i bet it'll be buggy as hell fora few months
C.K. Sample, III: bis ater
Scott McNulty: bye!
Fabie e has left this chat.
ScottMcNulty: I wanted that fake video iPod that no one promised me!!!
C.K. Sample, III: final thoughts everyone?
Scott McNulty: they were, in fact, 'medium level' a ouncments
C.K. Sample, III: yes
Scott McNulty: butwere they that 'fun'?
C.K. Sample, III: no
C.K. Sample, III: I think the fun was su osed to be theboombox
C.K. Sample, III: but... WAY to 1980s
C.K. Sample, III: too
Scott McNulty: A le has goneretro!
Scott McNulty: Bring back the multicolored logo!
C.K. Sample, III: i really wanted a palmtop oriTablet
Jan: i've been waiting for a new case, but i'm disa ointed by these
C.K. Sample, III: but thenagain, I always want those
C.K. Sample, III: yeah
Jan: a arently, they don't give you acce to the ipod'scontrols
C.K. Sample, III: save some money and get a nicer 3rd party case
C.K. Sample, III: Damien? anythoughts?
1:55 PM
Scott McNulty: A le.com is updated
Jan: ah, now we can see the boombox
Jan: it's17 in x 6.6 in x 6.9 in
Jan: and rectangular
C.K. Sample, III: dumb
C.K. Sample, III: alright
Jan:it looks more like something you'd leave in the living room than carry around
C.K. Sample, III: I call thischatcast officially over.
C.K. Sample, III: everyone post away!!!
Jan: bye bye
C.K. Sample, III: thanksfor joining us!!!
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